[Smudded @ Nov 10th 2007 9:17PM]

I think you guys put a bit of a slant on this. He says that he doesn't think it violates existing laws of thermodynamics. He just says that he doesn't know WHY they're getting the measurements they do. This is a very different approach from Steorn who claims to be making more energy than is put in. I think you guys should seriously revise this article.

[Smudded @ Nov 10th 2007 9:19PM]

Of course I'm not saying they should be taken extremely serious due to their history, but come on. You're bashing them a bit more than you should be.

[BigD145 @ Nov 10th 2007 9:48PM]

They need to be bashed and then castrated. These folks are part of the reason why science isn't taken seriously enough.

[Smudded @ Nov 10th 2007 11:29PM]

Why though? This guy didn't say his device defied any existing laws. He said that through a chemical process induced by electricity they produced heat. So what? If they're wrong about being able to commercialize or it doesn't work, that will eventually be brought to light. If people are stupid enough to invest money into their project, that's their fault. I'm just saying, these guys seem to be very different from the folks over at Steorn.

[why not the LS2/LS7? @ Nov 11th 2007 3:41AM]

If more energy is coming out than going in, either the device is consuming itself, or it's violating the laws of physics.

#2 is impossible.
#1 would mean the device would wear out (rather quickly if it has any significant amount of extra output) and thus selling it as a heater would likely be fraud.

[Smudded @ Nov 11th 2007 1:06PM]

Are you people THAT thick? He DOES NOT think the device is producing more energy than put it. He says it right there in the video. He's trying to figure why they're getting wrong measurements, that's all. Steorn still believes they're actually producing more energy than is put in. There's a difference. Come on people, read what I'm writing.